Does anybody know if we should include Dr. Visyak and Patrick the witch on this list? I think that Patrick would be classified as a simple immortal like Don and Maggie, but I'm not sure about Visyak. She was 900 years old, just like Patrick, but she was also a creature from Purgatory and claimed to be capable of handling a demon. So perhaps she would be an advanced immortal? 70.245.29.157 07:48, February 23, 2013 (UTC)

I agree with Visyak, she should be in advanced immortals, but I don't think Patrick should be on this page, as he wasn't immortal, he survived by using a spell to steal peoples youth, as such he was never truthfully immortal. General MGD 109 (talk) 18:02, February 23, 2013 (UTC)

Since it seems that every witch has the potential for unending youth, should we remove the individual names of the witches who have lived prolonged lives and just put "Witches" down (for example, we just list Vampires, Demons, Leviathans, etc. rather than individual members of their species)? KevinTheDestoryer (talk) 14:02, May 1, 2013 (UTC)

No, because as far as we know, not all witches possess this power or the ability to gain this power. Its never been stated they can or they could, so far it only seems powerful ones can enchant themselves. As such its not so much of a racial charateristic, mearly a common tactic. Thus it doesn't count, for example all vampires are immortal, however not all witches are, the first three in "Malleus Maleficum" and Ruby clearly weren't, nor do we have any evidence that James or Specer were. General MGD 109 (talk) 17:00, May 1, 2013 (UTC)


Didn't Death say that God would die one and day and that he would reap him? This being the case, God is technically not immortal.86.147.227.51 20:38, February 26, 2014 (UTC

That's Death's personal beleif. He MIGHT be right, he might not.

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